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LorenPechtelyesterday at 10:52 PM2 repliesview on HN

All the hospitals are rubble? Why did I see images of a basically untouched hospital after the fighting stopped? And it's irrelevant anyway as hospitals lose their protected status when used for military purposes. All the Geneva protections apply only to truly civilian things, not to things pretending to be civilian.

And Haaretz is not credible.

Your video is paywalled but also irrelevant as it shows emergency symbols, not proof they truly were medical. The Red Crescent specifically has refused to object to their symbol being used as a cover for military operations and as such it grants no special status on the battlefield.


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idiotsecantyesterday at 11:01 PM

You saw pictures of a hospital.

This must be the definition of pedantry. The point is *Israel deliberately destroyed an unconscionable number of hospitals, killing enormous amounts of real-life civilian people, actual humans like you and I. People with daughters, husbands, friends, people who were just as valuable as anyone else.

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ceejayozyesterday at 10:54 PM

> All the hospitals are rubble?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_on_health_facilities_d...

"By February 2024, it was reported that "every hospital in Gaza is either damaged, destroyed, or out of service due to lack of fuel.""

> And it's irrelevant anyway as hospitals lose their protected status when used for military purposes.

A lie.

https://www.icrc.org/en/document/protection-hospitals-during...

"Even then, humanitarian considerations relating to the welfare of the wounded and sick being cared for in the facility may not be disregarded. They must be spared and, as far as possible, active measures for their safety taken."

"Notably, an attacking party remains bound by the principle of proportionality. The military advantage likely to be gained from attacking medical establishments or units that have lost their protected status should be carefully weighed against the humanitarian consequences likely to result from the damage or destruction caused to those facilities: such an attack may have significant incidental second- and third-order effects on the delivery of health care in the short, middle and long-term."

> All the Geneva protections apply only to truly civilian things, not to things pretending to be civilian.

This is an outright lie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions

"The First Geneva Convention addresses the treatment of sick and wounded field soldiers, the Second Geneva Convention addresses the treatment of sick and wounded sailors, the Third Geneva Convention addresses the treatment of prisoners of war, and the Fourth Geneva Convention addresses the treatment of civilians during armed conflict"

> Your video is paywalled but also irrelevant as it shows emergency symbols

That is precisely why it is relevant. Israel's initial claim was that they didn't have any.

From the article we're discussing:

"After footage from Radwan’s phone was first published by the New York Times a few days later, the Israeli military backtracked on its claims that the vehicles did not have emergency signals on when Israeli troops opened fire, saying the statement was inaccurate."

"The Israeli military then announced on April 20 that an internal inquiry into the incident had found the killings were caused by “several professional failures, breaches of orders, and a failure to fully report the incident.”"

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