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gaigalasyesterday at 11:53 AM1 replyview on HN

You mean https://security.apple.com/blog/private-cloud-compute/?

The only thing it says is "custom Apple silicon", which honestly could mean a high-binned chip from the same production line.

You gotta admit that the M4 price is kind of a magic trick. Also, with zero carbon emissions.

Look at their environmental report:

https://images.apple.com/co/environment/pdf/products/desktop...

> To address emissions generated by using primary materials, we’re increasing the recycled content in our products, maximizing material and manufacturing efficiencies, and improving yields.

This wording is very specific. It's not "recycled materials", it's "recycled content" to address the emissions of using primary materials. I find it to be very sneaky.

I'm not saying they're refurbishing used servers, but there's definitely something going on here.

Look at their overall environment report from 2024 (not product specific):

https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/Apple_Environmental_Pr...

There is a section about "Material recovery". Here is a quote:

> Even after a product reaches the end of its life, the materials within it can serve the next generation of products.

> Each time that we effectively recover materials from end-of-life products, we enable circular supply chains.

> Disassembly and recovery advancement: Continuing to develop better, more efficient means of disassembling products that maximize material recovery while minimizing waste.

It seems to me that what they're describing here, publicly, is almost exactly what I said. I just made an extra leap implying that the disassembled EOL'd products were servers that never got used and were turned into M4 Minis (which is speculation, but highly informed by these reports).

Why do this? Well, it means they can invest on servers and if they lose some race, they can pivot. It's a unique advantage. I would take advantage of that if I were Tim.


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thenthenthenyesterday at 1:11 PM

Sounds like greenwashing. They just sell the chips from cnc’ing alu cases to a recycler, hell apple does not even manufacture anything it is all outsourced