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Red Hat takes on Docker Desktop with its enterprise Podman Desktop build

103 pointsby twelvenmonkeystoday at 1:25 PM68 commentsview on HN

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y0ssar1antoday at 4:03 PM

The best alternative to Docker Desktop on macOS is to abandon the GUI entirely use colima to create the linux VM.

    brew install colima docker docker-buildx docker-completion docker-compose
    export DOCKER_HOST="$HOME/.colima/docker.sock" >> ~/.zshrc
    source ~/.zshrc
    colima start --cpus 8 --vz-rosetta --ssh-agent --mount $HOME:w

then add this line to your $HOME/.docker/config.json

    "cliPluginsExtraDirs": ["/opt/homebrew/lib/docker/cli-plugins"],

that will get you a fast virtiofs VM with the latest docker, including compose and buildx. it may seem scary to replace an officially blessed tool like Docker Desktop, but i have had zero issues with colima. it isn't "docker compatible". it's docker. just need to run `brew upgrade` and `colima update` every once in a while to keep it up to date.
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bmurphy1976today at 2:47 PM

I tried to use podman desktop for a bit but I ran into some screwy compatibility issues. It just wasn't as smooth as docker.

I really really want an alternative to docker desktop. I don't like the path they're going down. I don't like the AI crap in the UI. The licensing is crazy. It just doesn't feel right.

So I've been lately using rancher by SuSE. Surprisingly, it's been all right. So far it just works. I'm using this on Mac OS.

If anybody's looking for an alternative that's one worth considering.

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pm90today at 3:12 PM

I love podman. it’s my default whenever i need to run containers locally. Ive also used it to run containerized systemd services.

Selling enterprise licenses is a smart move from Redhat: they actually build/contribute to production grade container orchestration platforms like openshift. Unlike Docker Inc which looks like it only has the docker registry and Docker Desktop.

tonnydouradotoday at 4:41 PM

Man, I feel bad for Docker, the company. Created the open source project that almost single-handely revolutionized deployments, development environments, and cloud computing, but sorta never managed to stick a product.

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osigurdsontoday at 2:53 PM

I personally prefer the Podman CLI however as you don't need the daemon running in the background and prefer Kubernetes like yamls for local development. I definitely don't need a polished desktop GUI that shows me how many images I have though - I've never understood the use case for that.

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ImJasonHtoday at 3:58 PM

It's unclear to me from this post, or Red Hat's announcement[0] what makes it an enterprise build, aside from offering some support SLA.

Are there any material differences between this and the free OSS Podman Desktop[1] released 4 years ago?

0: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/introducing-red-hat-build-pod... 1: https://podman-desktop.io/

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p0w3n3dtoday at 2:22 PM

My Podman starts containers in arch x86-64-v3 with rosetta on for 27 seconds which Docker does it in 9s. I wonder what's wrong. I've already upgraded Mac to Tahoe (which has x86-64-v3 support included into rosetta)

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blelltoday at 5:56 PM

Is Podman still not supported natively on macOS?

RickJWagnertoday at 6:52 PM

Congratulations to the Podman Desktop team. They’ve worked hard on the product, Red Hats processes for launching a new offering include some daunting gates. Good job, team.

throwaway613746today at 4:48 PM

Never saw the point of these desktop apps. Docker (and podman) works just fine from the CLI only.

drchaimtoday at 4:40 PM

Is anyone paying for this things?