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janalsncmyesterday at 6:19 PM3 repliesview on HN

Maybe it goes without saying, but the reason you don’t mind the bus in Europe is not because you are European but because the European buses are nicer.

The things you say about noise and pollution are also true in the US, and American drivers are acutely aware of them. But the alternative is not a European bus, so people drive.


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x0x0yesterday at 6:53 PM

But also too, packed with junkies who, at best, behave erratically and at worse assault randoms.

Taking the bus around sf makes it immediately clear why (not all, but most) people who have options choose them.

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enraged_camelyesterday at 6:38 PM

>> Maybe it goes without saying, but the reason you don’t mind the bus in Europe is not because you are European but because the European buses are nicer.

Actually I think it is both. Car culture in Europe is nowhere as dominant as it is in the US. Many Europeans grow up with public transportation as the default mode of getting around. So they are more likely to be accustomed to things that become grievances for Americans.

I was born and raised in Turkey, and now live in the US. In Turkey when you take a bus or train during rush hour you’re often packed like sardines. No concept of personal space. Same with many cities in Europe. That type of thing wouldn’t fly anywhere in the US, except maybe NYC. Even then though New Yorkers tend to dislike it.

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tclancyyesterday at 6:59 PM

You are stating unequivocally that every bus in every European country is nicer than the average bus in the US?

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