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ticulatedsplinelast Friday at 9:54 PM3 repliesview on HN

that creepy feeling of "being watched" has mostly kept me from taking advantage of any SOTA models, i only dabble in a few local ones.

The level of detail does not seem surprising. they're both charged with maintaining a facade of privacy while eliminating any and all miss-use. Certainly they heavily analyze basically everything given to them.

And generally as a society we've been ok with basically zero privacy as long as the data we send stays inside the company we sent it too. Google reads all your emails? Sure thing, read away, just don't send them to the popo. Apple knows when you're ovulating? no problem, just don't tell Amazon. etc


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heavyset_goyesterday at 9:18 AM

Same here. My assumption is that anything sent to a hosted model is public information, it will be trained on and it will be collated with your identity. And even if public models have guardrails that prevent that information from being regurgitated as slop, every CEO/owner/investor/government/etc will all have access to the uncensored models that include everything.

If you've ever ran a SaaS business, you know this and you know you can have "God Mode" access to everything, even if you swear up and down that you don't/won't.

The owners of these models aren't your friends, they see you as objects. They want to take as much value as they possibly can from you and will starve you if/when the option appears. That includes selling and sharing whatever data they have on you to the highest bidders, and some of those bidders want scapegoats to parade around as domestic terrorists.

The fact that companies are willing to send their IP and business processes to entities that can easily launder it and out compete them is mind-boggling, as well.

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mshyesterday at 5:12 AM

The signal founder is doing private llm’s at confer.to

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ameliusyesterday at 12:14 AM

I use my local models to generate input for the SOTA models, so there is enough noise that the companies don't know what is real or not :)

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