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elAhmoyesterday at 8:52 AM7 repliesview on HN

Placing landmines is probably among the shittiest and most vile things someone can do.

Knowing that ten, twenty, maybe 50 years after a conflict ends a completely innocent and unrelated person, maybe even not born at the time you did it, might die or get permanently disabled is a sick move.

Place where I grew up is still full of landmines (Bosnia and Herzegovina), and some of the people who placed those mines are government officials today, loved by EU because of their natural resources.


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comrade1234yesterday at 10:43 AM

When it's a choice between existence and annihilation it's not so difficult a choice.

For example, Finland has a program that will mine the entire border with Russia in just hours if Russia invades.

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hylarideyesterday at 2:58 PM

I get what you're saying, but war is evil and sometimes you have to use methods to win that you would otherwise judge from the privileged position of peace.

I can't in good conscience say that the Ukrainians are evil for laying mines well after the invasion started, even though we all know that when the fighting eventually stops it's going to be a disaster to deal with.

Now the Balkans was a different story, where mines were intentionally laid in areas to target civilians. So in the end, like any device designed to kill, it's how and why it is employed that makes the act "evil" or not.

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yasonyesterday at 9:12 AM

Agreed.

Also I think that if you live next to a warmongering country you certainly care more about making a military invasion the shittiest and the most vile thing for the aggressor that you can think of and landmines are cheap and effective there.

I think it's a sufficient trade off that landmines self-disable themselves in, say, 5 years or so. If the war continues you'll keep planting more and when it ends you'll just wait a few years and go collect them.

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wesselbindtyesterday at 9:58 AM

It is absolutely evil. Placing mines instantly puts you in the bad guy category as far as I'm concerned, no matter whom you claim you're "targetting". The Baltics withdrawing from the Ottawa treaty was an absolute disgrace. Indefensible.

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cromulentyesterday at 4:25 PM

Placing anti-personnel mines is also not very effective in a pitched conflict.

The enemy will lose a few soldiers, but will then clear a marked path. The long term effects far outweigh any short-term advantage.

some_randomyesterday at 3:33 PM

Have some empathy, do you think landmines are placed for fun?

Chyzwaryesterday at 9:21 AM

In conflict between equals, landmines are the only practical way to restrict the mobility of the enemy. That's why 20% of Ukraine is contaminated by mines. If you were official and your choices would be losing and more people dying or placing more landmines that can be cleared over 20 years, what would you do?

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