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watwutyesterday at 3:39 PM4 repliesview on HN

Ukraine got rid of nukes and it was massive collosal mistake. In alternative universe where they win and get territory back and get economy on track, they would be 100% warranted to get the nukes.

My point is, Ukraine war and the way it evolved shows that not having nukes is a bad position.


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epolanskiyesterday at 7:22 PM

> Ukraine got rid of nukes and it was massive collosal mistake.

They couldn't operate them, all electronics were in Moscow anyway, nor afford to maintain them or even guard them.

At the very same time Ukraine's corrupted military sold out on the black market tens of billions of weaponry.

In your alternate universe, bad actors acquire and reverse engineer those nuclear weapons resulting in a world that's much more dangerous.

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reliabilityguyyesterday at 3:50 PM

> My point is, Ukraine war and the way it evolved shows that not having nukes is a bad position.

Israel (allegedly? idk) has nukes. Did it stop October 7th? Did it stop Iran from firing ballistic missiles?

The war of today is not an open war (the war in Ukraine did not start on February 24 2022, but in 2014) where nuclear deterrence matters. Nuke will never help if the war is waged through proxies.

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dtechyesterday at 4:23 PM

Ukraine never had operational control of the missiles in its territory

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Saline9515yesterday at 4:09 PM

By now the nukes would have been useless. You need to have a continuous ballistic and nuclear program to manufacture new nukes and missiles as the old ones become stale.

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