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wolvoleoyesterday at 8:35 AM11 repliesview on HN

Hmm the one thing I'm kinda missing with grapheneos is mobile payments. The banks here in Europe used to have their own nfc apps but in my country they've all moved to Google wallet :( or Samsung pay.

I don't want Google monitoring my payments so I'm using Samsung now but I'd love to have something more open for this.

I was kinda hoping the partner would be Samsung so they might collaborate on a payment system too. I don't think Motorola has anything like that.


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drnick1yesterday at 4:04 PM

If you don't want your payments to be tracked you need to use cash or crypto. Otherwise, just use a credit card. I really don't see how unlocking a phone is easier or more convenient than using a credit card.

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strcatyesterday at 11:43 AM

If you're in Europe you can use Curve Pay, PayPal and multiple banks which haven't moved to Google Pay. Alternatively, pay in cash if you want privacy.

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timedudeyesterday at 9:15 AM

If this partnership with motorolla becomes a success, samsung will follow as will the chinese.

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icaryesterday at 9:07 AM

Curve works on GrapheneOS. I use it weekly.

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aniviacatyesterday at 9:14 AM

PayPal's tap-to-pay also works without Google Wallet (and therefore on GrapheneOS). It isn't any more open than Samsung Pay though.

Cider9986yesterday at 2:58 PM

Hate to break it to you, but 100s of third parties are privy to your exact payments including locations. Google could easily buy that information.

tigreznoyesterday at 3:53 PM

Yup, tried Graphene but went back to Android because of NFC payments.

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Tade0yesterday at 8:58 AM

I was hoping more banks would introduce support for U2F. In Europe ING was one of the first if not the first, but so far few followed.

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Makenyesterday at 9:52 AM

With the adoption of Wero that should stop being a problem. As long as your bank app works on GrapheneOS.

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stepriyesterday at 9:44 AM

Not all banks like Open Bank. Works on GrapheneOS

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ekjhgkejhgkyesterday at 9:14 AM

> I don't want Google monitoring my payments

If you don't want Google monitoring your payment you shouldn't use mobile payments. In fact you shouldn't even use cards, because those likely have agreements with Google for data sharing. If you're serious, it's simple, just use cash.

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