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mendelmalehyesterday at 10:02 AM6 repliesview on HN

One thing that bothers me is the seeming lack of transparency about who is running GrapheneOS. Daniel Micay supposedly stepped down, so who is calling the shots now? Who runs the CI? Who owns the update servers and signing keys? Who am I trusting?


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strcatyesterday at 11:42 AM

The directors of the the GrapheneOS Foundation and the other things you're talking about are public information. I stepped down as lead developer due to relentless harassment preventing me from being productive. The same people targeting me with harassment misrepresented what was happening.

You shouldn't get info about GrapheneOS from Hacker News comments especially when multiple regulars here are part of the attacks on GrapheneOS. Hacker News permits people to freely engage in libel and harassment towards me on nearly every post about GrapheneOS.

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aniviacatyesterday at 10:24 AM

What I find particularity odd is that on their donation page [1], Daniel Micay's personal Github account is linked as a donation option (using Github sponsors).

(I opted to donate via bank transfer instead, because that is at least addressed at the GrapheneOS Foundation, not one specific member.)

[1] https://grapheneos.org/donate

Avamanderyesterday at 11:51 AM

They also have an overly reactive social media presence, somewhat similar to what ffmpeg has. Could end up being bad PR for Motorola.

Funnily enough that same social media person has some odd ideas about trust and PKIs.

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flexagoonyesterday at 10:13 AM

Daniel Micay is still running the project despite announcing he'd step down a while ago. You can see the entire team on their Github

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rkagereryesterday at 4:49 PM

Without criticizing or implying any conspiracy theories, I did find it odd where the news release quoted "a spokesperson at GrapheneOS" without attributing it.

We badly need alternative(s) like GrapheneOS, and I want to see it succeed. I hope as the project matures, the sense of professionalism and stability it projects will strengthen. For what it's worth, I personally feel the business partnership is a step toward that end, and am really happy to see some manufacturer diversity.

codethiefyesterday at 10:16 AM

+1 This complete lack of transparency is the same gripe I have with the Signal Foundation.

FWIW, https://ised-isde.canada.ca/cc/lgcy/fdrlCrpDtls.html?p=0&cor... lists three directors for the GrapheneOS Foundation: Khalykbek Yelshibekov, Daniel Micay, and Dmytro Mukhomor.

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