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toss1yesterday at 7:48 PM1 replyview on HN

>> 12 [days at 90° C] or 468 days [at 60° C]

Those temperatures are certainly hard to find in nature, outside of hot springs! Even if this is an error and we are talking about 90°F/60°F, the higher temperature is pretty much constrained to the tropics, so we're talking a year+ to degrade in real conditions. It is better than centuries, but not exactly rapid?


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jacobolusyesterday at 7:52 PM

Yeah, I imagine it's considerably slower at ambient ocean temperature. Don't throw your PLA bags in the ocean or a river. Here's a different paper:

> For example, PLA is not biodegradable in freshwater and seawater at low temperatures [32,36–39]. There are two primary reasons for this: (i) The hydrophobic nature of PLA, which does not easily absorb water [40–42]. In aqueous environments, the lack of hydrophilicity diminishes the hydrolysis process, which is crucial for the initial breakdown of PLA into smaller, more degradable fragments. (ii) Resistance to enzymatic attack; the enzymes that degrade PLA are not prevalent or active under typical freshwater and seawater conditions [39,43,44]. The microbial communities in these environments may not produce the necessary enzymes in sufficient quantities or at the required activity levels to effectively breakdown PLA. Additionally, the relatively stable and crystalline domains of PLA can further resist enzymatic degradation.

Also:

> It should be emphasized that neat PLA cannot be classified as a completely biodegradable polymer, as it generates microplastics (MPs) during biodegradation.