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pdpiyesterday at 9:59 AM6 repliesview on HN

Sure. Insofar as Apple Silicon beats these things, "I'll take less powerful hardware if it means I'm not stuck with the Apple ecosystem" is a perfectly reasonable tradeoff to make. Two things, though.

First, I don't like making blind tradeoffs. If what I need (for whatever reason) is a really beefy ARM CPU, I'd like to know what the "Apple-less tax" costs me (if anything!)

Second, the status quo is that Apple Silicon is the undisputed king of ARM CPU performance, so it's the obvious benchmark to compare this thing against. Providing that context is just basic journalistic practice, even if just to say "but it's irrelevant because we can't use the hardware without the software".


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bluGillyesterday at 11:25 AM

Why do you need ARM? There is nothing magic, most CPUs are an internal instruction set with a decoder on top. bad as x86 is, decoding is not the issue. they can make lower power use x86 if they want. They can also make mips or riskv chips that are good.

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rbanffyyesterday at 10:30 PM

> Apple Silicon is the undisputed king of ARM CPU performance

The cores, yes, but you can get an AmpereOne with 192 ARM cores (or rent out beefier machines from AWS and Azure). If you need to run macOS, then you are tied to Apple, but if all you want is ARM (for, say, emulated embedded hardware development), you have other options in the ARM ecosystem. I'm actually surprised Ampere maxes out at 192 cores when Intel Xeon 6+ has parts with 288 cores on a single socket (and that can go up to 4 sockets).

I wonder how many cores you'd need to make htop crash.

jayd16yesterday at 3:08 PM

The problem is you can't really compare things apples to apples anyway. You're always comparing different builds and different OSes to get a sense of CPU performance.

__alexsyesterday at 4:36 PM

> the status quo is that Apple Silicon is the undisputed king of ARM CPU performance

If your metric is single thread performance yes but on just about anything else Graviton 4 wins.

guerrillayesterday at 5:59 PM

Are M* chips even beating AMD anyway?

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ameliusyesterday at 11:16 AM

Let's say my company makes systems for in-flight entertainment, with content from my company.

I am looking for a CPU.

I don't want to confront my users with "Please enter your Apple ID" or any other unexpected messages that I have no control over.

Is Apple M series an option for me?

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