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throwaw12yesterday at 8:08 PM5 repliesview on HN

This doesn't include generational damage in sentiment:

* Europe is in trouble because they can't get gas from Russia, Qatar stopped supplying gas

* Japan is in trouble because Middle East supplies its 75% of oil, which is blocked now

* Ukraine is in dilemma, because US giving every support to Israel, but not to Ukraine

* Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain is asking questions, if US can't defend us and is moving all defensive missiles to protect Israel, why should we even be ally with them in the future, they're scared even more (except UAE) that people might overthrow those kings if things continue this way

* Africa understood its better to work with China, than with US


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roystingyesterday at 9:25 PM

That’s just the tip of the iceberg. People here seem to also have no perspective, since it is not in the wheelhouse of most tech people, on the fact that this is all a part of a 40 year strategy (as Netanyahu himself has openly stated) that some refer to as the “the Clean Break Strategy” or the “7 countries in 5 years memo”[1]. It clearly took longer than 5 years, but they definitely tried and even the likes of Hillary “we came, we saw, he died” Clinton was a party of that.

People always squabble over blue team vs red team, never realizing that the whole game is just a ruse to provide a sense of democratic control to placate the public, and also give the apparatchiks if the regime a sense of autonomy, when in fact they’re just all pulling at the same continuity of agenda like beasts of burden, being whipped and rode by a very small group that hold their reins.

[1] https://x.com/wikileaks/status/1819709215352438921?lang=en

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jklinger410yesterday at 8:39 PM

I think citizens in those countries recognize that allowing a repressive regime to exist simply for cheap oil costs is not necessarily a good solution, either.

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underdeserveryesterday at 9:49 PM

> Qatar, Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain is asking questions, if US can't defend us and is moving all defensive missiles to protect Israel, why should we even be ally with them

Where are you getting this information? The UAE, for instance, is relying heavily on missile defense - and it's working out for them:

https://gulfnews.com/uae/uae-intercepts-186-ballistic-missil...

It's all US technology, too:

https://www.wired.me/story/inside-the-system-that-intercepte...

lm28469yesterday at 9:58 PM

> Europe is in trouble because they can't get gas from Russia, Qatar stopped supplying gas

60% of it comes from the US, a lot from northern Africa too, not much comes from the middle east

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flyinglizardyesterday at 8:14 PM

The disruption in gas supply will be very short. Weeks, at most. The gulf states will be very happy to see the Islamic Republic gone, they are living in its shadow for a long time now. Now, Ukraine and Israel need very different kinds of support, and things like US withholding intelligence from Ukraine have nothing to do with Israel.

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