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vbezhenaryesterday at 6:28 AM3 repliesview on HN

For some people maybe. I don't want to use local AI and NPU will be dead weight for me. Can't imagine a single task in my workflow that would benefit from AI.

It's similar to performance/effiency cores. I don't need power efficiency and I'd actually buy CPU that doesn't make that distinction.


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wtallisyesterday at 6:58 AM

> Can't imagine a single task in my workflow that would benefit from AI.

You don't do anything involving realtime image, video, or sound processing? You don't want ML-powered denoising and other enhancements for your webcam, live captions/transcription for video, OCR allowing you to select and copy text out of any image, object and face recognition for your photo library enabling semantic search? I can agree that local LLMs aren't for everybody—especially the kind of models you can fit on a consumer machine that isn't very high-end—but NPUs aren't really meant for LLMs, anyways, and there are still other kinds of ML tasks.

> It's similar to performance/effiency cores. I don't need power efficiency and I'd actually buy CPU that doesn't make that distinction.

Do you insist that your CPU cores must be completely homogeneous? AMD, Intel, Qualcomm and Apple are all making at least some processors where the smaller CPU cores aren't optimized for power efficiency so much as maximizing total multi-core throughput with the available die area. It's a pretty straightforward consequence of Amdahl's Law that only a few of your CPU cores need the absolute highest single-thread performance, and if you have the option of replacing the rest with a significantly larger number of smaller cores that individually have most of the performance of the larger cores, you'll come out ahead.

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fodkodraszyesterday at 6:47 AM

Never wanted to do high quality voice recognition? No need for face/object detection in near instant speed for your photos, embedding based indexing and RAG for your local documents with free text search where synonyms also work? All locally, real-time, with minimal energy use.

That is fine. Most ordinary users can benefit from these very basic use cases which can be accelerated.

Guess people also said this for video encoding acceleration, and now they use it on a daily basis for video conferencing, for example.

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orbital-decayyesterday at 6:36 AM

Also similar to GPU + CPU on the same die, yet here we are. In a sense, AI is already in every x86 CPU for many years, and you already benefit from using it locally (branch prediction in modern processors is ML-based).

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