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dmurrayyesterday at 12:15 PM0 repliesview on HN

China does it well. You can't get unemployment benefit, but if you can turn up for work sober every day and are prepared to do menial work, you are guaranteed a job.

Chinese cities are clean and tidy, not because people don't litter - they litter much worse than Americans or Europeans, from what I've seen - but because someone is paid to clean up the litter.