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Sayrusyesterday at 10:47 AM9 repliesview on HN

> Anyone who uses BitTorrent to transfer files automatically uploads content to other people, as it is inherent to the protocol. In other words, the uploading wasn’t a choice, it was simply how the technology works.

What an argument to make in court. It can be proved false in minutes by the plaintiffs.


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Teknomadixyesterday at 1:15 PM

Not exactly automatically.

Seeding is opt-out, not opt-in… but it is usually a default that has to actively manually overridden. Most users never touch those settings. The average pirate downloading a torrent is seeding whether they know it or not.

The protocol absolutely does not enforce seeding. A client can lie to the tracker, cap upload to 0k. BitTorrent has no mechanism to compel one to share. Leeching a file, downloading and sharing no forward packets is possible. While the "social contract" of seeding is entirely a norm enforced by private trackers and community shame. It is not the protocol itself.

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Ekarosyesterday at 10:48 AM

I can't believe that no one has ever tried that one before... So do we now roll back all of the previous copyright cases where downloading music with bittorrent has been prosecuted?

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gmokkiyesterday at 11:35 AM

When I pull the trigger and the bullet kills an another person, it is just how technology works. Why would I be responsible if I choose to use it or not?

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tgvyesterday at 5:48 PM

Even if the court accepts the argument, it can be undermined by pointing out that they knew it in advance, or could have known, and thus accepted it.

gus_massayesterday at 11:35 AM

I agree, that people used to be called "leechers". Somewhat related xkcd https://xkcd.com/553/

throw73848595yesterday at 11:21 AM

This. You can set upload speed to zero, and download entire dataset without uploading anything. Slower but doable.

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ekjhgkejhgkyesterday at 1:46 PM

Lawyers are paid to defend a position. They are intellectual prostitutes.

AlienRobotyesterday at 4:17 PM

My client didn't "buy" illegal drugs. He received illegal drugs. But anyone who makes a drug deal automatically sends money to the drug dealer, as inherent of the protocol. In other words, "giving money for drugs" wasn't a choice, it was simply how drug deals work.