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onnimonnitoday at 4:04 AM4 repliesview on HN

I'm not that familiar with CED but the fact that we can see the images with microscopes is because these are analog discs? And that was because computing power back then was non-existent so they didn't use any kind of compression?


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gf000today at 7:10 AM

The key point is that there has to be a slow vertical panning happening as actual content. If that happens, then the on-disk representation of a color channel can end up physically below/above what happens before/after in the movie, drawing out the "actual content". This is why end credits were the most likely visible artifacts.

One other important aspect is that by changing the angle of lighting, he could basically filter out data at a relevant wavelength.

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At least that's what I got from the video.

ErroneousBoshtoday at 9:13 AM

There wasn't any computing involved. The video was recorded as a sampled analogue signal, with pits of varying length setting the "output voltage".

If you look at a Constant Angular Velocity disc you can actually see "spokes" radiating out from the centre, with two broad ones 180° apart. The narrow spokes are the horizontal sync pulses occuring every 0.576° - the disc rotates at 25 revs per second and each concentric track is one complete frame. The broader spokes are of course the vertical sync pulses and colour burst occurring every 1/50th of a second.

If you're in the US or Japan, these numbers are 30 revs per second, 0.686° and 1/60th of a second, because of the lower resolution video standard, but it doesn't look like Laserdisc was much of a "thing" in those countries.

Here in the UK, in the 1980s all the schools took part in a thing called "The Domesday Project" [1] - the name is a reference to The Domesday Book, a survey of England and Wales carried out in the 11th century by William the Conqueror.

The Domesday Discs were CAV Laserdiscs that were played in a special player with a SCSI interface, attached to a BBC Micro computer. Because each concentric track was a complete frame it was possible to get perfect still frame video by just keeping the head still, so you could look at photos of places all around the UK and read a bit of information about them genlocked over the top.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Domesday_Project

brazzytoday at 6:59 AM

Uncompressed digital encoding might still result in recognizable structures, but probably not as nicely as here.

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throwaway27448today at 5:41 AM

This is a distinction without meaning: all digital anything is analogue if you look closely enough

> And that was because computing power back then was non-existent so they didn't use any kind of compression?

Compression is not a medium-level detail. You can easily store compressed data on a laserdisc.

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