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myself248today at 11:42 AM5 repliesview on HN

I've always been cautioned against ultrasonic cleaning of boards that have crystal oscillators, and indeed it's in most XO datasheets.

I've also heard that one shouldn't trim the leads of a through-hole XO before soldering it into the board, since the mechanical shock of the lead breaking can ring the whole package and similarly shake it apart. I'm curious if anyone here has seen that in practice!


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dlcarriertoday at 6:58 PM

I worked on a product that included pre-trimmed HC-49/S through-hole crystal oscillators, and not a single crystal failed. It was a low-volume product, but there were still probably tens too hundreds of thousands of them built.

When a batch with 20 MHz surface-mount crystals, in a package similar to the one in the article, were accidentally run through an ultrasonic cleaner, the failure rate was immediately noticeable, in the single-digit percent.

Leads of through-hole components are usually trimmed before assembly, on both manual and automated assembly lines, (e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjVY8lb0LG8) and I've never seen this prohibited in a datasheet, but ultrasonic cleaning is usually prohibited.

Aurornistoday at 1:46 PM

> I've also heard that one shouldn't trim the leads of a through-hole XO before soldering it into the board, since the mechanical shock of the lead breaking can ring the whole package and similarly shake it apart. I'm curious if anyone here has seen that in practice!

I’ve never put a through hole crystal into production so I can’t say anything about this conjecture.

However the larger surface mount crystals are not hard to hand solder if you get a package with side wettable flanks and make the pads reasonably large. It’s something I’d recommend considering.

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the__alchemisttoday at 12:22 PM

I went down this rabbit hole a few years ago, and couldn't find an actionable answer on if this is OK or not. Sounded like "No, you shouldn't", but almost every PCB I've designed (or used?) has at least one, and I know ultrasonic cleaning is a thing, so I'm not sure how to reconcile these.

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garaetjjtetoday at 2:24 PM

On the other hand I heard that one shouldn't trim leads after soldering as it might crack solder joints...

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jacquesmtoday at 12:23 PM

Oh, that's a good one, I can see how that would put a lot of g's on the package. I think this will be a factor depending on the weight of the total assembly. If that weight is significant it will dampen the shockwave.