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We are building data breach machines and nobody cares

30 pointsby idealloc_haristoday at 2:50 PM11 commentsview on HN

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vadelfetoday at 5:53 PM

The Belmont analogy is great, but the deeper point is even scarier: most of the industry is giving non-deterministic systems direct access to deterministic infrastructure (databases, shells, email, etc).

Historically we spent decades reducing automation privileges and adding layers of verification. Agents seem to be reversing that trend almost overnight.

jeffwasktoday at 3:13 PM

As long as the penalties for data breach are a slap on the wrist and buying everyone one year of credit monitoring, no one will.

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m3047today at 6:21 PM

Goes to a lot of trouble to build a mental model / map / landscape of how agentic ops work. Worth the read if you're looking for one, reasonable people know the map is never the terrain.

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idiotsecanttoday at 6:54 PM

You know how in video games literally everything is super easy to hack?

Turns out all those games were just very forward-thinking.

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sbcorvustoday at 5:45 PM

Anyone know how many data breaches occur on a monthly basis that would require credit monitoring?

RGammatoday at 6:07 PM

> Not only is this pure science fiction at this point, but injecting non-determinism into your defensive layer is terrifying and incredibly stupid. If you use an LLM to evaluate whether another LLM is doing something malicious, you now have two hallucination risks instead of one. You also risk a prompt-injection attack making it all the way to your security layer.

I've found fictional displays of "system compromise" kinda ridiculous in e.g. Halo. Now I know that Cortana throws AI slop input into AI slop infrastructure with thousands of subagents until she's in.

octoclawtoday at 6:05 PM

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