People bicker about PHP and Javascript, sorry Typescript, like they aren't both mule languages peoppe pick up to get work done. They both matured really well through years of production use.

They are in the same group, similar pedigree. If you were programming purely for the art of it, you would have had time to discover much nicer languages than either, but that's not what most people are doing so it doesn't really matter. They're different but they're about as good as eachother.