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delectiyesterday at 5:16 PM4 repliesview on HN

Yep. And in fact there's been a ton of resistance for 20 years to rolling out an alternate form of driver's license which does act as proof of citizenship. See the REAL ID, which even now is only kinda a requirement to fly domestically.


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jjmarryesterday at 6:02 PM

Real ID only confirms one was lawfully present in the United States when the ID was issued, it is not intended to prove citizenship.

https://www.dhs.gov/archive/real-id-public-faqs

For example, DACA recipients, temporary protected status refugees, and citizens of states in free association with the USA (Micronesia/Marshall Islands/Palau) that are in the USA are all eligible for Real ID.

jagenabler2yesterday at 5:28 PM

I'm not sure where this idea that REAL ID is a form of citizenship came from. I am not a citizen and i was given a REAL ID just by proving my legal (non-immigrant) status.

DangitBobbyyesterday at 5:56 PM

I have a Real ID, and I supplied a proof of citizenship to get it. However, in my state, it's possible to obtain a Real ID without providing proof of citizenship, so my Real ID does not qualify as proof of citizenship. My passport is the only document I have that could function as both photo ID and proof of citizenship. Passports are not the easiest things to obtain and they are not free.

mothballedyesterday at 5:22 PM

.gov own court filings have argued Real ID isn't a reliable proof of citizenship and have refused to accept it as such.

  "...based on HSI Special Agent training and experience, REAL ID can be unreliable to confirm U.S. citizenship."
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.alsd.76...