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lokaryesterday at 5:19 PM2 repliesview on HN

The current bill Trump is pushing for requires "documentary proof of citizenship ", this can actually be very hard. It means an original/certified birth certificate, as well as any subsequent name changes (mostly married women).

This is completely unnecessary.

We establish citizenship, very reliably, at time of registration. This is on of the main jobs of the registrar of voters. They have plenty of time to look up the details of the person and establish citizenship (and intentionally lying in this process is a serious crime).

We then establish identity at the time of voting, again, very reliably.

Intentional voter impersonation or voting when not eligible is vanishingly rare in the US.


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tastyfreezeyesterday at 5:36 PM

Some states only require a piece of mail and checking a box saying you are legally allowed to vote to register. Then when you checkin to vote the workers are not permitted to ask for ID to prove you are the person you claim to be.

At no point during that process is there presentation of proof of citizenship.

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expedition32yesterday at 6:01 PM

Trump expects half of the US to get a passport in the next 6 months.

These kind of fundamental changes require years of preparation. Either Trump is an incompetent moron or he has ulterior motives.

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