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himata4113yesterday at 5:12 PM2 repliesview on HN

Cheating is so addictive that it doesn't matter if it's more difficult to cheat. I have peronsally interacted with people that just want to spin-bot.

Anticheats, especially kernel-mode ones does not make the problem smaller. All they do is make it more rewarding for capable people.


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Aurornisyesterday at 5:17 PM

Having gamed on and off over the years, I don’t think the average cheater is actually a highly motivated super genius who derives reward from patching their BIOS or installing PCIe DMA cards to an entire second computer built for the purpose of cheating.

The average cheater is (or was) basically a troll. They delighted in the act of ruining other people’s games, not installing the cheat. The harder you make it for them to get to that point, the less enjoyment they get.

The people you describe who are in it for the thrill of breaking through are not the ones playing 6 hours every night because the game itself is not the thrill. It’s the exploration of the hardware and software. They might get cheats set up, but once it’s working they get bored with the game and move on to another technical challenge.

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NikolaNovakyesterday at 6:49 PM

Can you tell me more? I'm curious about motivations.

* I use easy cheats for single player games - for example, infinite jumps in cyberpunk 2077 are just huge amounts of fun :)

* I have zero desire for cheating in multilayer games. Not some high morality righteous horse, just, what's the point? I have fun even when I lose, and having something else play for you takes away from visceral fun that I get.

* I could understand, even if not agree, people who cheat for profit. That's the basis of all crime everywhere.

* I do not understand people who cheat in multilayer games not-for-profit. It feel you need to have both a) some sort of anti social / non social tendency, and b) dopamine rushes along pathways I don't.

I'd be genuinely curious to hear about your acquaintances who cheat in multilayer for no profit and why they do it :-)

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