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ysnptoday at 6:16 PM3 repliesview on HN

DNSSEC is one of very few topics where voices I respect on security seem completely opposed (WebPKI depends on DNS vs. DNS security does not matter). Is there any literature that demonstrates deep understanding of both arguments? Why are they (DNSSEC + WebPKI) never considered complimentary?


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ekr____today at 7:22 PM

You'll have to judge for yourself whether this demonstrates deep understanding of both arguments, but I did try to be evenhanded in these posts:

https://educatedguesswork.org/posts/dns-security-dnssec/ https://educatedguesswork.org/posts/dns-security-dane/

From my perspective, the challenge with DNSSEC is that it just doesn't have a very good cost/benefit ratio. Once the WebPKI exists, "critical path" use of DNSSEC only offers modest value. Now, obviously, this article is about requiring CAs to check DNSSEC, which is out of the critical path and of some value, but it's not clear to me it's of enough value to get people to actually roll out DNSSEC.

winstonwinstontoday at 8:10 PM

> Why are they (DNSSEC + WebPKI) never considered complimentary?

WebPKI works without DNSSEC, whereas DANE (a more secure WebPKI replacement) depends on a robust DNSSEC deployment.

indoleringtoday at 6:36 PM

Bad arguments and FUD when it was being rolled out. Sysadmins also don't want to touch working infra code, you can see that with AWS lagging on IPv6.

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