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starkparkertoday at 7:55 PM1 replyview on HN

> I knew from hard experience with Darwin that internally siloed open source projects cannot thrive (HHVM was a repeat lesson)

I'm glad HHVM happened, and also glad it stalled. I don't think PHP 7 and 8 would've made the improvements they did without HHVM kicking their ass, and I think there would've been a fork based on HHVM rather than PHP 8 if HHVM hadn't lost that public momentum.

I remember Wikimedia's testing/partial implementation of HHVM[1] being a turning point, at least in the circles I was in at the time. It showed PHP performance could actually be improved, and by quite a lot. Without that proof of concept at that scale _in the open_, HHVM devs could've ran benchmarks from here to eternity and people still would've said, "yeah, sure, _if you're Facebook_"

1: https://techblog.wikimedia.org/2014/12/29/how-we-made-editin...


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gcrtoday at 8:04 PM

The URL of this story seems to have changed to a Meta press release. What are you quoting?

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