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trvzyesterday at 9:17 PM9 repliesview on HN

Installing with pip on macOS is just not an acceptable option. It'll mess up your system just like npm or gem.

This needs to go on homebrew or be a zip file with an app for manual download.


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DIVx0yesterday at 9:32 PM

Agree with you, a slightly more maintainable way to use it now is with "uv" or mise. i've used `uv tool install unsloth` for this one.

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danielhanchenyesterday at 10:10 PM

Hey we're still working on making installation much better - appreciate the feedback!

We come from Python land mainly so packaging and distribution is all very new to us - homebrew will definitely be next!

bityardyesterday at 10:02 PM

I recommend installing uv first, then you can install any Python code you want inside a virtual environment to keep it isolated from the rest of the system.

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mmis1000today at 2:31 AM

Uv helps you up though. Use a pyproject.toml and uv sync. Everything will be put into the venv only, nothing spread across the whole system.

The pyproject.toml can even handles build env for you, so you no longer need a setup.sh that installs 10 tool in specific order with specific flag to produce working environment. A single uv sync, and the job is done.

Plus the result is reproducible, so if this time uv sync work, then it also work next time.

Highly recommend if you are still on pip.

Note: Take a example that I used to install unsloth with rocm setup that based on unreleased git version dependencies and graphic card specific build flag, all of them can be handled with one command 'uv sync'. This will require a big pile of shell script if doing another way. https://github.com/unslothai/unsloth/issues/4280#issuecommen...

jszymborskitoday at 12:43 AM

Would pipx solve the problem?

https://pipx.pypa.io/stable/installation/

gesshayesterday at 10:05 PM

I know the whole package system across most languages is a dumpster fire but for Python, uv solves a lot of problems.

uv init

uv add unsloth

uv run main.py % or whatever

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smcleodtoday at 6:43 AM

Ah yes, came to say something similar, Python dependencies are an absolute nightmare, even with uv it feels like there's always a battle to make other peoples Python apps install.

Update: It looks like it doesn't work with the current Python version, you might have to downgrade to Python 3.13 (however even then I still get `error: unexpected argument '--torch-backend' found`)

Computer0yesterday at 9:55 PM

On my linux systems I use venv to not affect system packages, is that not an option for this situation?

beernetyesterday at 10:00 PM

Agreed, feels like a vibe-coded frontend based on already given backend features.

Also, never saw any Unsloth related software in production to this day. Feels strongly like a non-essential tool for hobby LLM wizards.

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