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jerlamlast Monday at 11:47 PM8 repliesview on HN

Haven't phones, watches and tablets been using low refresh rates to enable battery improvements for a while?

The Apple Watch Series 5 (2019) has a refresh rate down to 1Hz.

M4 iPad Pro lacks always-on display despite OLED panel with variable refresh rate (2024):

https://9to5mac.com/2024/05/09/m4-ipad-pro-always-on-display...


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amaranthyesterday at 10:35 PM

Phones and watches do that with LTPO OLED which I don't believe exists at higher screen sizes although I'm not sure why. This is supposed to be special because it isn't OLED so should be able to get brighter and not have to worry about burn in.

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hirako2000yesterday at 9:45 PM

Dell needs to sell these XPS. The AI button doesn't do the trick, so battery life may do it.

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SXXyesterday at 10:14 PM

OLED iPad dont have always on because of burn-in. Considering people certainly use it as photo frame, notification and time daahboars, kitchen recipe book, etc.

Less of a problem for iphones that unlikely to stay for a week in the same place plugged in and unused.

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ksectoday at 12:58 AM

>M4 iPad Pro lacks always-on display despite OLED panel with variable refresh rate (2024):

Brightness, Uniformity, Colour Accuracy etc. It is hard as we take more and more features for granted. There is also cost issues, which is why you only see them in smaller screens.

trvzyesterday at 10:10 PM

iPad Pro only goes down to 10 FPS. This may be the display of the upcoming MacBook Pro.

KolibriFlytoday at 1:29 PM

What LG is pitching here is basically bringing that 1Hz floor capability to large laptop panels

MBCookyesterday at 10:01 PM

Yes but I’m unaware of larger ones.

jauntywundrkindyesterday at 10:43 PM

Panel Self Refresh should largely just work, and I believe has been on laptops for a long long time. Here's Intel demo'ing it in 2011. https://www.theregister.com/2011/09/14/intel_demos_panel_sel...

I'm not sure that there's really anything new here? 1Hz might be lower. Adoption might be not that good. But this might just be iteration on something that many folks have just not really taken good advantage of till now. There's perhaps signficiant display tech advancements to get the Hz low, without having significant G-Sync style screen-buffers to support it.

One factor that might be interesting, I don't know if there's a partial refresh anywhere. Having something moving on the screen but everything else stable would be neat to optimize for. I often have a video going in part of a screen. But that doesn't mean the whole screen needs to redraw.

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