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kevincoxtoday at 2:46 PM1 replyview on HN

Random idea: If you have a known sentinel value for empty could you avoid the reader needing to read the writer's index? Just try to read, if it is empty the queue is empty, otherwise take the item and put an empty value there. Similarly for writing you can check the value, if it isn't empty the queue is full.

It seems that in this case as you get contention the faster end will slow down (as it is consuming what the other end just read) and this will naturally create a small buffer and run at good speeds.

The hard part is probably that sentinel and ensuring that it can be set/cleared atomically. On Rust you can do `Option<T>` to get a sentinel for any type (and it very often doesn't take any space) but I don't think there is an API to atomically set/clear that flag. (Technically I think this is always possible because the sentinel that Option picks will always be small even if the T is very large, but I don't think there is an API for this.)


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loegtoday at 3:03 PM

Yeah, or you could put a generation number in each slot adjacent to T and a read will only be valid if the slot's generation number == the last one observed + 1, for example. But ultimately the reader and writer still need to coordinate here, so we're just shifting the coordination cache line from the writer's index to the slot.

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