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LetsGetTechnicltoday at 5:41 PM12 repliesview on HN

It's clear how insane this culture war against trans people is when you consider this only applies to trans women and not trans men?

Also, so many of these anti-trans efforts end up hurting cis women too, the ones who happen to look too masculine or have too high of testosterone.

Gender is not as straightforward as bigots and transphobes would like to think. I wonder how many cis women will be affected by this ruling because their chromosomes and hormones aren't within so called "normal levels"


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snackbrokentoday at 6:07 PM

> It's clear how insane this culture war against trans people is when you consider this only applies to trans women and not trans men?

In most sports, the "mens" division is actually an open division that accepts all participants regardless of sex. Women just don't compete in it because they have no shot at getting a decent placement. The fact that males and females can't fairly compete with each other is the raison d'être of the women's league. This, and not culture war propaganda reasons is why only the most deranged bigots have an issue with trans men competing in "mens" sports.

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briandwtoday at 6:06 PM

The fact that it's only one way (banning men from competition in women's sports) is evidence against your point, not for it. If it was strictly anti-trans, then it would be an applied to both. The fact that no one cares that if a woman wants to participate in a men's event is pretty telling.

helterskeltertoday at 5:59 PM

Trans men don't compete because women are essentially non competitive against men in top level athletics. Which is why trans women are controversial in women's sports. Every year there are hundreds of males highschoolers who outcompete females Olympic gold medalists. By allowing men to compete in women's sports you prioritize the notions of identity of what's usually a single individual over an entire class. It's plainly sexist.

As for intersex individuals, put them in their own competitive class.

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belorntoday at 7:52 PM

I was wondering about trans men and there is actually quite a bit amount of regulations for it, as taking testosterone is generally considered to be doping. Trans men are only allowed to compete if they are under heavy supervision by a medical professional and they follow a very strict set of rules dictating how, when and what kind of treatment they do. Too high amount of testosterone or too uneven levels of testosterone will disqualify a trans man from competing.

fweimertoday at 7:40 PM

Maybe the trans men issue gets less attention because they have already been excluded from both women's and men's events?

I assume trans men are administered testosterone as part of their medical care, and that's already universally banned from competitive sports.

exolymphtoday at 5:58 PM

Trans men have no advantage against cis men.

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briandwtoday at 5:50 PM

Men are stronger and faster and not just a little bit. If you allow men in women's sports, (basketball, soccer, boxing etc) then women will not be competitive in those sports.

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stronglikedantoday at 6:03 PM

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LetsGetTechnicltoday at 5:46 PM

Also there has only been one (1) trans woman, Laurel Hubbard, who has competed in a women's event (weightlifting) and she not place.

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dismalaftoday at 6:29 PM

Because trans men have no advantage in men's sport, whereas trans females do. It's not even about trans people at all, it's about preserving fairness in women's sports.

Before trans issues were widespread in culture, intersex athletes were also scrutinized. Hell, I remember when people were questioning whether having a testicle removed gave Lance Armstrong an advantage...

GaggiXtoday at 5:45 PM

>It's clear how insane this culture war against trans people is when you consider this only applies to trans women and not trans men?

I believe the logic is based on the fact that male athletes are stronger than female athletes.

lo_zamoyskitoday at 6:35 PM

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