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amarantyesterday at 7:59 PM17 repliesview on HN

I must say that all this fuzz about the corners actually reflects rather well on macos.

If the biggest flaw of a OS is the border radius of its windows, you've got yourself a pretty decent OS!

It's not gonna make me leave my darling Linux, ofc, but i think this whole debacle can only be interpreted as praise.

On second thought, it might also be considered a mediation on people's tendency to bike-shed.


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intrasightyesterday at 8:01 PM

I disagree as it shows a fundamental flaw in terms of separation of concerns that's probably manifest throughout the operating system.

Or to stay it another way, if we see shit like this then we know the whole thing is a hack.

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arendtiotoday at 11:58 AM

I think it is more like the newest incarnation of sub-optimal user experience decisions. 20 years ago, their system was great for the time. However, nowadays it feels like a system that has been developed over time by different people with different concepts in mind.

Currently, MacOS has the worst window management compared to Windows and (all) the Linux desktop environments. I mean, where else do you have such problems with resizing windows or just switching between windows, not to mention the inconsistent feature sets when you want to work with virtual desktops...

NwtnsMthdyesterday at 8:05 PM

It's not the biggest flaw, there are plenty others, but it does seem to be universally disliked.

For example, there is not much you could do to Finder to make it worse.

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ablobyesterday at 8:18 PM

> If the biggest flaw of a OS is the border radius of its windows, you've got yourself a pretty decent OS!

This argument would also make Windows 11 a pretty decent OS by extension via "If the biggest flaw of a OS is the position of the start menu you've got yourself a pretty decent OS".

In general I could use any minor nuisance as a proof of decency - or inject some to form this argument on purpose as a manufacturer.

People don't like if their environment changes in minor unsolicited ways. There's always gonna be fuzz about these things and that means that the fuzz itself can't be used to make any strong argument whatsoever.

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SunshineTheCatyesterday at 8:56 PM

I was thinking the same thing. I actually agree with most of the complaints people have made about the corners, but it seems so small compared with literally every interaction I have with Windows.

As someone who works on Windows, Mac, and Linux; Windows stands alone in my opinion as the "stepping on legos with no socks on" of operating systems.

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ameliusyesterday at 8:13 PM

The biggest flaw is that the system is opinionated, so you cannot change anything you dislike.

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alpaca128today at 1:38 AM

The border radius would be less jarring if the UI was actually designed for it. But it just cuts off elements like the scrollbar, which looks quite janky.

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annie511266728today at 5:33 AM

Or maybe people focus on corners because it’s one of the few visible things they can actually complain about — the real issues are harder to pin down.

bloomcayesterday at 8:17 PM

It is just the most obvious, macOS is a death by thousands cuts

mikey_pyesterday at 8:05 PM

On the other hand the fact that it sometimes makes it hard to resize windows means that it breaks something that Apple operating systems have been capable of doing without issue for nearly 45 years.

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freetime2yesterday at 9:06 PM

Yeah "notorious inconsistency issues in windows corners" almost feels like an oxymoron to me. Perhaps it is notorious among graphic designers, but I'm sure the vast majority of MacOS users will never notice or care.

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thesuitonymyesterday at 8:15 PM

It's not even close to the biggest flaw, it's just the most obvious one.

chimeracoderyesterday at 8:09 PM

> If the biggest flaw of a OS is the border radius of its windows, you've got yourself a pretty decent OS!

There are loads of other flaws with the OS. It just so happens that people care a lot about the design of Apple's products, so people talk about these details.

iLoveOncallyesterday at 8:42 PM

This is not the biggest flaw, this is just the most recent flaw.

MacOS has been shit for as long as I've used it (8 years) and probably for much longer than that. There are many lists available of MacOS problems (https://old.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/12rw1sn/a_long_list_... for example), it's just that there's not much point making a new article about the Finder that's been shit, and unchanged, for a decade.

gcapuyesterday at 8:33 PM

I think you miss the point. How would you feel if you had a Ferrari with a noticeable scratch? Yes, it is great to have such a nice car, but it'd be a pity. So much much effort was put into the whole thing and this little detail is what lingers on your mind.

zarminyesterday at 8:49 PM

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