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moebrownetoday at 8:34 AM6 repliesview on HN

> The honeybee is not endangered. It never was.

There are several severe threats to honey bees which without human intervention would cause a significant number of hives to be lost.

There's the varroa mite and the things it carries like deformed wing virus, then there is the increasingly prevalent Asian hornet which European honey bees are unable to deal with, and colony collapse disorder where the bees literally disappear for reasons we current don't understand, and climate change is causing colonies to starve over the winter.

Honey bees are not going extinct tomorrow but they are not doing well.


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aziaziazitoday at 9:08 AM

Humans also face severe treats and are not doing well but are not going extinct tomorrow. Honeybees seems to only decline in North America, especially the USA, but as you said it’s human intervention that keeps their population booming years after years. Perhaps a decline wouldn’t be so problematic it doesn’t go to extinction? A decline in chickens population wouldn’t lead to extinction, to elaborate on the funny authors take:

> Promoting honeybee hives to save pollinators is roughly the equivalent to building more chicken farms to save bird biodiversity

The other problems you raise are important but are also a treat to others bee species and insects.

https://earth.org/data_visualization/bees-are-not-declining-...

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bregmatoday at 11:12 AM

Honeybees are livestock. They're no more endangered than chickens or cows. If we need more, we just breed more.

In most places honeybees are raised they couldn't even survive in the wild. Just like cows and chickens and pigs. As with most livestock, without human intervention they would probably be wiped out.

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t-3today at 5:50 PM

Wild honeybees adapt to deal with mites. What they struggle with are insecticides and monoculture deserts. Domesticated varieties that have been selected for productivity and placidity are the ones that haven't quickly adapted to the introduction of parasites, diseases, and predators, because they don't have to, as the humans worry about those problems.

TazeTSchnitzeltoday at 11:32 AM

There's also the massive problem of fake honey (i.e. manufactured sugar syrup illegally sold as honey), which is much cheaper than real honey and pushing actual beekeepers out of the market.

cachiustoday at 9:59 AM

Now think of bumble and other wild bees who catch the mites from the blossoms but get no treatment with formic or oxalic acid.

jojobastoday at 12:03 PM

To add, most farming relies precisely on honeybee for pollination, and losing 2/3 of them would be quite devastating.

Of course nobody cars about wild bees, our lives don't depend on them nearly as much.

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