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Taterrtoday at 5:32 AM7 repliesview on HN

None of the comments here seem to discuss or even mention how this situation looks from googles perspective? I feel like HN readers are not aware of the scale of the problem they face or their motivation behind these changes.

If you look at the rate of growth of the call/text scam industry I think it's entirely possible that android owners are getting scammed out of more money than google themselves makes on the android platform as a whole. It's at least not that far off. Which doesn't even account for the humanitarian issues which they probably feel partially responsible for.


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xigoitoday at 7:26 AM

Google’s perspective is that they don’t want people to install NewPipe so that the CEO can buy more yachts.

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rpdillontoday at 1:55 PM

I don't find the assertion credible that people are getting scammed out of more money than the entire platform is worth. But given that Google does not make the revenue for Android public, what kind of numbers do you think you're talking about here?

Also, I think it's disingenuous to say that scams are predominantly powered by sideloading. I think the vast majority of the scams that are perpetrated use apps directly from the Play Store.

realusernametoday at 8:55 AM

Google's perspective is that they want full control on Android.

If they really care about scams, the first result when I search for chatgpt is a fake app with a fake logo. Maybe they should start by tackling the scams on the play store as the play store is the far west.

goku12today at 7:42 AM

Their solution to every problem is to take away more control of the smartphones each time from the users who own them. Meanwhile, I have much less problems with scam and security issues and more freedom with software off FDroid. Makes you wonder if the actual problem is perhaps the one coming up with these solutions and their malevolent intentions behind a thin veil of laughable PR. Besides, I don't get people's habit of justifying trillion dollar corporations that can't seem to come up with any non-dystopian solutions.

schubidubidubatoday at 5:58 AM

Why does nobody ever think of the poor megacorporation?

I mean maybe you're even right and they care a little bit about people being scammed. But if you believe that the scamming thing is any more than a pretense for further establishing Google's absolute control over the Android ecosystem, that is just very naive.

Their goal is to make money. Apps installed outside of Google mean less money for them. Ergo, consumer's right to install what they want on their devices must go.

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fredgrotttoday at 1:23 PM

my bias former android and java dev....

Google choose an OS using a VM by design is insecure by default....

ITS NOT US USERS FAULT!

elooxtoday at 6:01 AM

That may be, but I think you are missing the point of the outrage: this solution is not good.

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