alt Hacker NewsHey! I'm Nick, and I work on Integrity at OpenAI. These checks are part of how we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform.
A big reason we invest in this is because we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users. My team’s goal is to help make sure the limited GPU resources are going to real users.
We also keep a very close eye on the user impact. We monitor things like page load time, time to first token and payload size, with a focus on reducing the overhead of these protections. For the majority of people, the impact is negligible, and only a very small percentage may see a slight delay from extra checks. We also continuously evaluate precision so we can minimize false positives while still making abuse meaningfully harder.
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> OpenAI: These checks are part of how we protect products from abuse like bots, scraping, and other attempts to misuse the platform.
This would be fucking HILARIOUS if it wasn't so tragic.
the company that scrapes every until it collapses really needs to protect itself from scraping. Lol.
In long threads in chatgpt, it grinds to a halt in both Chrome and Firefox. Please fix
Kudos for trying
This whole thread was like watching a swarm of ants try and take a grasshopper down
Hey Nick, I find it concerning this account is. Frayed just to comment on this thread. And never even reply back to any of the real concerns.
Here to hoping this is real person and actually created account out of concern and sharing.
> I work on Integrity at OpenAI
Irony is truly dead. Show you have integrity by quitting your job
It has not been negligible for me, and, however you're doing this, there is significant room for improvement.
There have been times when, across about ten minutes of usage, most of which is me typing on iOS Safari, it drained 15% of my battery. There is no functional justification for this beyond poor code quality. (It was on a long conversation FWIW.)
This when I'm logged in, with a paid (Plus) account, connected to a very old email address with a real user profile. That can't be the result of super-clever bot defense measures, because it's merely an inconvenience on desktop. And if you genuinely believe that email has been compromised, why aren't you reaching out the to the account owner, as the account isn't otherwise connected to fraud by your heuristics?
However brilliant the LLM agent it is, I'm seeing a lot of unforced errors regarding how you implement a web interface to it. If it makes you feel any better, it doesn't really register compared to all the bloat I see on other sites.
Chatgpt banned me after I said disparaging things about Sam Altman in a chat.
When I appealed the ban, I was told that I couldn't be told exactly why I was banned, but if I wrote a written apology and "promised to never do it again" my ban could be appealed.
I asked for an update on the ban via email every month for over a year.
Maybe you could tell me a little bit about that process?
> These checks are part of how we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform.
Isn't this the same behavior used by AI companies to gather training data? Pot, meet kettle.
Protecting your site from bots and scraping is absolutely hilarious considering how you acquired (read: stole) the data you trained your bot on dude.
Just yank that ladder up behind you.
I understand it's not your area, but can you please politely tell your colleagues that the clickbait-type teaser questions from the latest model are absolutely infuriating and are quickly leading to me abandon the platform entirely?
If you'd like, I can write a two-sentence paragraph to send to your colleagues. It contains a special phrase which most colleagues will find difficult to ignore. Would you like me to do that?
Hi Nick, your software is a horrendous encroachment on users' privacy and its quality is subpar to those of us who know what we're working with. We don't use your product here.
History will not be kind to you and your ilk. Quit your job.
> we protect our first-party products from abuse like bots, scraping, fraud, and other attempts to misuse the platform
Have you just described the dilemma facing all the content sites used to train LLMs?
The reason why you did it is clear, why you guys settle down for such a poor implementation is why this thread exists
Hi Nick, do you believe what you say? You scraped the shit out of everyone
Then make sure they only target the free tier!
Have you given any thought to what we trade when big tech elects one corporation as the gatekeeper for vast swaths of the Internet?
> we want to keep free and logged-out access available for more users.
And THANK YOU for that!
Being able to use ChatGPT and Grok without signing in is a big part of why I like those services over Gemini etc.
Hell, dummy Claude won't even let me Sign-In-with-Apple on the Mac desktop, even though it let me Sign-UP-with-Apple on the iPhone! BUT they do support Sign-In-with-Google!!? What in the heavenly hell is this dumbassery
Fake Account
You’re doing gods work sir, thank you!
lol, hypocrites.
the irony of your statement is hilarious, disappointing, and infuriating.
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Are you disabling them for paying subscribers?