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dotBenyesterday at 8:46 PM26 repliesview on HN

I wouldn't want a touchscreen MBP even if it was free, anyone else feel similar?

I don't get the draw - we already optimize for keyboard commands to avoid living our fingers over to a touchpad. Why would I want to start clicking on my screen?

If you're using your computer for tasks (rather than entertainment) and you're not a visual designer, I don't get why Apple are apparently going to be putting them into the new MBP line later this year.


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AussieWog93today at 2:55 AM

I feel like the point isn't "there should be a touch screen MacBook" but more "holy shit we simulated a working touch screen by looking at reflections coming off the glass, isn't that cool".

bitmasher9yesterday at 9:03 PM

Sometimes, if I’ve been using my iPad for awhile and switch over to my MBP, I might reach out and touch the screen out of habit. I can’t be the only one.

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Waterluvianyesterday at 9:10 PM

I don’t understand touchscreens on laptops that aren’t designed to fold flat. It’s got the feel of finger painting an unconstrained birthday balloon.

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dwedgeyesterday at 11:02 PM

While I'm the same and totally agree with you, the few times I've been using touchscreen I find the habit sticks so hard that for days I keep touching my macbook screen, so there is definitely some subconscious desire for this (or I would have defaulted to using the trackpad even if my brain thought touch was available)

post-ityesterday at 8:49 PM

> I don't get why Apple are apparently going to be putting them into the new MBP line later this year.

Apple has apparently being going to put a touchscreen in a laptop every year since the iPad came out, and it's never materialized.

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mrweaseltoday at 12:32 PM

Tech-reviewers keep harping on the MacBook for not having a touch option, but I think it's mostly of check a box.

Something no one seems to address is that it makes no sense to have touch on the laptop screen, because you honestly don't use it much, at least in a professional setting. You'll always dock your laptop anyway, either for comfort, or legal compliance (or both). My 27" monitor doesn't have touch, that's what I use 99% of the time, the laptop screen is a small auxiliary screen on the side. Why I reach out and touch it? That's also why the touch bar made no sense, it was on a keyboard that I almost never use.

dayvidtoday at 3:19 PM

Seems like it only makes sense if it's a hybrid tablet laptop like the Yoga. Otherwise it's a nice gimmick. I can also see Apple being terrified at someone's dirty fingers smudging the laptop, though they'd have some anti-smudge coating built in at that point

latexrtoday at 11:06 AM

> I wouldn't want a touchscreen MBP even if it was free, anyone else feel similar?

I don’t want a touchscreen MBP, but as long as touching the screen is an optional interaction and everything else is the same, I see no reason to reject it if it was free. I can just not touch the screen.

> we already optimize for keyboard commands to avoid living our fingers over to a touchpad.

“We” is a much smaller percentage of people than you’re likely thinking of. We’re outliers, not the norm. Yes, even amongst professionals.

lukantoday at 8:43 AM

Well, when I am doing rather thinking work, so not type in commands as fast as possible - I very much do like my laptop to have a touchscreen. It is way more ergonomic and comfortable, but yes, slower. But when the real work happens in my head, I like to be rather comfortable.

(Also I can immediately test touch features of the apps I develope)

radleyyesterday at 9:06 PM

It just feels ancient and weird now that I can tap every screen I own, except my Mac. I don't want to replace the Mac's keyboard & mouse with a touchscreen, I would simply like it to support touch.

(This also made me realize the impending obsolescence of the Studio Monitor XDR: no touch support.)

2muchcoffeemantoday at 1:03 AM

Why? Better than a track pad.

Use a Surface Pro some time. If you are just casually browsing or reading a website. I find it much nicer to just tap on a link or swipe to scroll.

christophilustoday at 12:33 AM

I have 2-3 old touchscreen laptops lying around. The touchscreen is useless to me. Worse than useless. If I ever use it, it’s accidentally, and I end up annoyed.

emmelaichtoday at 1:39 AM

Sometimes I feel the urge to do some art, and the bigger surface might allow that. Perhaps in lieu, make a bigger trackpad.

eitallyyesterday at 9:09 PM

I very much would want a touchscreen for my use cases.

Wowfunhappyyesterday at 10:37 PM

I wouldn't want a touch screen to become the primary input device, but I think it would be useful on occasion. Not entirely unlike how we still have touchpads even though we try to use keyboard commands.

paxysyesterday at 11:14 PM

It would make sense if the screen folded over. In a laptop form factor a touch screen is just annoying because it keeps pushing the screen back.

thesuitonymyesterday at 8:58 PM

Macs are definitely not optimized for keyboard commands. If you feel the software you use is keyboard optimized, odds are it's not really Mac software.

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mcvtoday at 10:55 AM

I completely disagree. I've got a laptop with a touch screen, and it's occasionally very useful. It's rarely my primary input method, but when you're not constantly using the mouse, how often do you lose track of where the mouse cursor is? Instead of reaching for the mouse, figuring out where the cursor is, and then carefully maneuvering it over the button I want to click, I can just reach out to the screen.

A touch screen is incredibly useful when you're not currently already holding your mouse. It's easier to switch from keyboard to touch than from keyboard to mouse.

harr01yesterday at 9:34 PM

The benefit of a touchscreen MBP is that Apple will be forced to make their screens more protective.

wombatpmtoday at 4:05 AM

But the Touch Bar was such a resounding success …

commandersakitoday at 12:58 AM

Yes, I feel like it'll be a degrade in quality if they do this with any of their current line up. If they want to make a Macbook Ultra or whatever with it, that's fine -- I would have no interest in it.

skwallace36yesterday at 10:42 PM

as long as it works well, would rather have it than not (but don't want to pay extra, so yeah... leave it out)

lysaceyesterday at 10:37 PM

The ergonomic aspects are horrible. I believe there's actual research on this from the 70s/80s/90s.

fortran77yesterday at 10:23 PM

All my Windows laptops have touch screens and I love it. What is the problem with having another input method available? You only use it when it’s appropriate.

platevoltageyesterday at 11:14 PM

I agree. I've never wanted a touch screen on my laptop. My screen gets smudged enough already.

3yr-i-frew-uptoday at 2:05 AM

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