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Painsawman123today at 11:38 AM10 repliesview on HN

Really surprising how many people are downplaying this leak! "Google and OpenAi have already open sourced their Agents, so this leak isn't that relevant " What Google and OpenAi have open sourced is their Agents SDK, a toolkit, not the secret sauce of how their flagship agents are wired under the hood! expect the takedown hammer on the tweet, the R2 link, and any public repos soon


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loveparadetoday at 12:03 PM

It's exactly the same as the open source codex/gemini and other clis like opencode. There is no secret sauce in the claude cli, and the agent harness itself is no better (worse IMO) than the others. The only thing interesting about this leak is that it may contain unreleased features/flags that are not public yet and hint at what Anthropic is working on.

IceWrecktoday at 6:08 PM

> What Google and OpenAi have open sourced is their Agents SDK, a toolkit, not the secret sauce of how their flagship agents are wired under the hood

And how is that any different? Claude Code is a harness, similar to open source ones like Codex, Gemini CLI, OpenCode etc. Their prompts were already public because you could connect it to your own LLM gateway and see everything. The code was transpiled javascript which is trivial to read with LLMs anyways.

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weird-eye-issuetoday at 3:18 PM

It doesn't matter that much. Trust me you could just have an LLM reverse engineer the obfuscated code.

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kaszankatoday at 11:59 AM

Is https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli not 'the flagship agent' itself? It looks that way to me, for example here's a part of the prompt https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/blob/e293424bb49...

hmokiguesstoday at 1:57 PM

Do you think the other companies don’t have sufficient resources to attempt reverse engineering and deobfuscating a client side application?

The source maps help for sure, but it’s not like client code is kept secret, maybe they even knew about the source maps a while back just didn’t bother making it common knowledge.

This is not a leak of the model weights or server side code.

danmaz74today at 4:51 PM

I guess that the most important potential "secret sauce" for a coding agent would be its prompts, but that's also one of the easiest things to find out by simply intercepting its messages.

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MallocVoidstartoday at 11:56 AM

Codex is open source: https://github.com/openai/codex

nuneztoday at 3:04 PM

Yeah, this is the LLaMa leak moment for agentic app dev, IMO. Huge deal. Big win for Opencode and the like.

mmaundertoday at 2:57 PM

Agreed. This is a big deal.

cleaningtoday at 7:03 PM

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