alt Hacker News> Stole? Courts have ruled it's transformative, and it very obviously is.
The courts have ruled that AI outputs are not copyrightable. The courts have also ruled that scraping by itself is not illegal, only maybe against a Terms of Service. Therefore, Anthropic, OpenAI, Google, etc. have no legal claim to any proprietary protections of their model outputs.
So we have two things that are true:
1) Anthropic (certainly) violated numerous TOS by scraping all of the internet, not just public content.
2) Scraping Anthropic's model outputs is no different than what Anthropic already did. Only a TOS violation.
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gruez • yesterday at 3:32 PM
>The courts have ruled that AI outputs are not copyrightable.
"not copyrightable" doesn't imply they can't frustrate attempts to scrape data.
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> 2) Scraping Anthropic's model outputs is no different than what Anthropic already did. Only a TOS violation.
Regardless of whether LLM training amounts to theft, thieves are still allowed to put locks on their own doors.