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eek2121last Friday at 10:36 PM9 repliesview on HN

I see a ton of bickering, however, I simply have to ask the question: how can anyone justify the United States of America and Israel attacking ANY country? It isn't our job, nor is it Israel's, to try and be the world police. People are dying, and because of a certain corpse-to-be controlling MY country, the world is beginning to suffer and it is going to get so much worse. Some economists are saying gas rationing will begin happening within the next 9-15 months. Iran has NO incentive to be diplomatic. On top of that, invisible damage that nobody is reporting about is being done...damage that could last years or possibly decades to very small, yet super important parts of the world supply chain that powers everything from fertilizer to pharmaceuticals. There is not a single person in the world that should be supporting this war. I don't care what your beliefs are. The results WILL affect you, and you won't get a bailout.


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roncesvallesyesterday at 1:53 AM

If you're asking in good faith, Israel isn't attacking Iran to play world police. Israel has been under constant attack from Iran-backed proxies. As for why Iran backs these proxies, the answer boils down to pure fanaticism. For a fanatic-led state to possess nukes is a dangerous situation and it's worth it for Israel to try and prevent it.

As for why America is involved in a conflict between Israel and Iran, it's because we have a Republican administration and a big segment of Republicans (Christian Evangelicals) want the US to ensure Israel as a state survives (also for purely fanatical reasons).

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epsteingptyesterday at 8:08 AM

Many people ignoring that Saudi Arabia, now a major ally or at least erstwhile enemy of Iran, would LOVE to see the fall of the Iranian regime.

Oil is the last remaining 'strategic commodity' everyone (including China) needs to keep a balance of power.

Many people missing the actual game here.

miketerylast Friday at 10:56 PM

This is the flag of the Houthis [1], they are sponsored by Iran, as are the likes of Hezbollah, and Hamas. They have similar language in their charters.

How is that not casus belli?

1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarkha

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UncleOxidantlast Friday at 10:52 PM

> gas rationing will begin happening within the next 9-15 months

It really depends where in the world you are. There are places that will begin rationing in the next few weeks if not sooner.

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stevenwooyesterday at 2:15 PM

All reporting I’ve seen on Israel mention destruction of Iran as long time dream of Bibi and it distracts from his legal and political troubles and unites country behind him - war has 90 plus percent approval among Jews and about 25 percent among Arabs who don’t vote for his coalition anyways, so political win for him. For modern GOP, “the cruelty is the point” can be used to explain most of his policy decisions, the book and original essay make the argument that making “others” suffer is uniting factor for GOP since Trump took the reins (in spite of many conflicting reasons Rubio, Trump and Hegseth have given to justify this war including setting stage for apocalypse foretold in Revelations to please fundamentalist Christian voter bloc) Many GOP voters have backed Trump in interviews even after being hurt by his tariff regime, immigration crackdowns, DOGE cutbacks, threats to annex territory, the only thing that appears to move the needle a little in GOP approval has been the recent run up in gasoline prices. One case in point - Farmers got hurt in first term by Trump tariffs, overwhelming supported Trump three elections in a row, and after second term tariffs hurt them, still support Trump, one would think if one farmer said I’m off the Trump train that reporters would be all over it. There is no rational thought process going on here beyond first order effects.

hereme888last Friday at 10:53 PM

Clueless? Iran has been attacking many countries, including US and Israel, for 47 years. It's not a secret.

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Johanx64yesterday at 5:39 AM

> how can anyone justify the United States of America and Israel attacking ANY country?

Every military action will have an on-paper "justification". It's kind of irrelevant frankly. But to cut bullshit, it really isn't that complicated.

Venezuela is an extremely oil rich country. Countries in the middle-east region, including Iran are very oil rich.

And that's in large part why US (by this point firmly decaying petrostate propped by petrodollar) is constantly there "meddling" and ensuring all the oil is continuously bought using US dollars.

That is wholly sufficient to explain things.

Every other cartoonish-evil justification "Iran wants to build nukes to bomb US, etc" is largely bullshit (why, for example, Iran doesn't want to nuke.... say Germany or France? hmmm.....)

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anonymou2last Friday at 10:48 PM

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