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askonommyesterday at 4:07 PM6 repliesview on HN

So are you also not allowed to move away or? I find it pretty messed up that your life as a man is literally owned by the government.


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victorbjorklundyesterday at 4:16 PM

No, it literally says the law says you must seek permission if you wanna leave for more than 3 months and the govt must always grant you this if not in a war. And if you fail to seek permission nothing happens. You can ignore it without consequence.

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itsyonasyesterday at 4:38 PM

All nation states are like that. They monopolise power and violence, and will defend that monopoly by sacrificing their citizens' lives if another state tries to infringe upon it.

I think it's clear that the interests of citizens and their state typically do not align. Unfortunately, most states have cultivated and propagated a different idea for decades, which is why so many people have a different perception of their state than the reality.

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Krssstyesterday at 4:35 PM

Yes you are: the article says that the permission must be granted in general by authorities (I guess no war and not active military) and no penalties for breaching it.

mhitzayesterday at 4:21 PM

You are, but it's a shit law and surprising to still exist in Germany. Per the article it's not a new law, has been in effect since the 80s, and there have been no repercussions for violating this law.

Instead, my 2c, should have changed it to a notice you have to send the military, at most.

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