A couple of podcasts in my rotation had Sarah Wynn-Williams on as a guest [1] [2], with the caveat that she was unable to talk about the book or comment on the Meta. Absurd.

I need to give this a read soon.

[1] https://www.ppfideas.com/episodes/live-special%3A-who-rules-...

[2] https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002mz5f