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ceberttoday at 12:57 AM8 repliesview on HN

I am shocked that there isn’t more opposition from the general public to policies like this that erode privacy and freedom. I am a parent and can appreciate the need to control what children do on the internet, but at some point parents need to parent. I fear we’re giving up a lot of freedom and adding unneeded complexity under the guise of keeping children safe.


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baxtrtoday at 6:34 AM

I think because most people, even tech savvy ones don’t understand how this might effect their lives. It’s too abstract. At least how it’s portrayed here.

Contrast that with chat control.

My government can read my WhatsApp messages? Not good!

What’s the non-technical narrative here?

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gmerctoday at 6:25 AM

Germany is distracted with its version of “the gun debate” aka speed limits.

Like every school shooting, every energy crisis brings opportunity to saturate the airwaves with shallow noise that gets people overly upset and they’ll ignore everything else.

Every player on both sides is abusing this mechanic for all eternity.

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Ardontoday at 1:29 AM

As far as I can tell, people are getting blitzed. People I know are incredibly deep in their personalized bubble and genuinely aren't even hearing about it. It's genuinely distressing. In general and for the future of democracy.

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phatfishtoday at 1:25 PM

I'm not. Parents are very much in favour of restrictions on what can be accessed online.

Parents can't control what their children are doing 24/7, and neither should they. But they should expect a society where children are protected from billion dollar corporations stealing their attention and radicalising them, at least until they are old enough to leave mandatory schooling.

There are many "real world" age restrictions that exist, and we have decided those are of benefit to society in general. The "online world" is no different.

If we can't have age restrictions online then they should just be abolished in the real world as well, in the name of preserving "privacy and freedom". The online world doesn't exist in isolation like it did in the 90s and 00s.

7bittoday at 8:28 AM

Because it requires tech iCal knowledge which 99% of the population don't have.

sunshine-otoday at 8:14 AM

This is because the EU is basically designed as a lobbying platform. Note that lobbying by its own citizen is possible and welcome but expensive and require a some coordination, so basically foreign actors and big corporations are dominating. This is not a secret, the process is actually very transparent but it is "hidden" in all the documents nobody really want to dig into.

Also the EU and all those states are also highly incompetent and pretty much only depends on low quality contractors. For example there is very little discussion and info about the fact that the EU digital infrastructure just got owned by what seems to be a random hacker group [0].

- [0] https://cyberalert.com.pl/articles/shinyhunters-eu-europa-br...

watwuttoday at 6:33 AM

> at some point parents need to parent

You write it as if companies provided tons of help to parents and children. Meanwhile, they spend a lot of money to make it as hard as possible.

Second, kids in Germany have generally a lot more freedom and there is less of knee jerk impulse to blame parents for every accident. Expectation is that adults dont harm them without parents having perfect control every sevond.

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testing22321today at 6:44 AM

What percentage of people have a phone that is not apple or google?

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