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Avamandertoday at 1:24 PM1 replyview on HN

> as letting the user lie to apps is essential to user's agency.

You do understand that in this case the user's agency has a very clear line?

Tampering with an electronic identity software is not a fundamental right the same way as tampering with your ID-card or passport isn't.

> [...] and in other cases they just had no choice.

QED. Not that they wouldn't or didn't want to.


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seba_dos1today at 1:41 PM

App attestation does not stop at legally binding identity software, and legally binding identity software can be serviced without app attestation. I accept not being able to tamper with my ID card, I may say it's "mine" but it ultimately belongs to the government; I don't accept not being able to tamper with my computers, they wouldn't belong to me anymore if that was the case.

> Not that they wouldn't or didn't want to.

Of course, but my devices' purpose isn't to grant wishes to corporations. In the ideal world they would still have no other choice. Unfortunately the more people use platforms that let them attest the execution environment the less leverage we have against them.

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