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horsawlarwaytoday at 2:46 PM2 repliesview on HN

There just aren't that many spots where the average js dev actually needs to touch a generator.

I don't really see generators ever crossing into mainstream usage in the same way as the other features you've compared them to. Most times... you just don't need them. The other language tools solve the problem in a more widely accessible manner.

In the (very limited & niche) subset of spots you do actually need a generator, they're nice to have, but it's mostly a "library author" tool, and even in that scope it's usage just isn't warranted all that often.


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no_wizardtoday at 4:27 PM

mainly because they messed up on implementation, in two ways. This is of course my opinion.

The first being `.next()` on the returned iterators. If you pass an argument to it, the behavior is funky. The first time it runs, it actually doesn't capture the argument, and then you can capture the argument by assigning `yield` to a variable, and do whatever, but its really clunky from an ergonomic perspective. Which means using it to control side effects is clunky.

The second one how it is not a first class alternative to Promise. Async Generators are not the most ergonomic thing in the world to deal with, as you have the issues above plus you have to await everything. Which I understand why, but because generators can't be used in stead of Promises, you get these clunky use cases for using them.

They're really only useful as a result, for creating custom iterator patterns or for a form of 'infinite stream' returns. Beyond that, they're just not all that great, and it often takes combining a couple generators to really get anything useful out of them.

Thats been my experience, and I've tried to adopt generators extensively a few times in some libraries, where I felt the pattern would have been a good fit but it simply didn't turn out most of the time.

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gbuk2013today at 3:49 PM

It is a specialised instrument but a useful one: batch processing and query pagination are first class use cases for generators that can really simplify business logic code. Stream processing is another and in fact Node.js streams have had a generator API for several releases now.