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jandresetoday at 6:44 PM3 repliesview on HN

It becomes a larger problem as the world moves away from fossil fuels like natural gas.

I'm not a chemist but are there really no alternatives? Running fusion plants to make helium seems very unlikely to become cost effective, but it would be quite the sci-fi future if we filled party balloons by bombarding hydrogen with free protons.

I guess there aren't any easy molecules to break apart to get helium either since its a noble gas. No hydrolyses type solutions because there aren't any molecules that incorporate helium. I guess radioactive decay, but even that is ultimately limited over long enough timescales.


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gazetoday at 10:12 PM

There are NO alternatives. There's nothing else that stays liquid at 4 K and absolutely nothing else comes close.

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triceratopstoday at 6:58 PM

> it would be quite the sci-fi future if we filled party balloons by bombarding hydrogen

How dangerous are party balloons filled with hydrogen? Not a whole balloon arch obviously.

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cubefoxtoday at 8:28 PM

> It becomes a larger problem as the world moves away from fossil fuels like natural gas.

I actually remember a similar problem from some compound that was mainly formed as a byproduct of some old Canadian nuclear reactor design. As the tech gets phased out, the material is no longer available in significant quantities, with consequences for a projects that need it (like Iter).

Some things can be cheap if they are produced as a byproduct, but very expensive if they have to be obtained directly.