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eugene3306today at 5:28 AM6 repliesview on HN

This makes a good benchmark LLMs:

``` look at this paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2603.21852

now please produce 2x+y as a composition on EMLs ```

Opus(paid) - claimed that "2" is circular. Once I told it that ChatGPT have already done this, finished successfully.

ChatGPT(free) - did it from the first try.

Grok - produced estimation of the depth of the formula.

Gemini - success

Deepseek - Assumed some pre-existing knowledge on what EML is. Unable to fetch the pdf from the link, unable to consume pdf from "Attach file"

Kimi - produced long output, stopped and asked to upgrade

GLM - looks ok


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fc417fc802today at 7:58 AM

> Once I told it that ChatGPT have already done this, finished successfully.

TIL you can taunt LLMs. I guess they exhibit more competitive spirit than I thought.

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erutoday at 8:50 AM

I copy and pasted the abstract into DeepSeek and asked your question. It's a bit unfair to penalise it for not knowing PDFs.

It got a result.

staredtoday at 2:26 PM

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theanonymousonetoday at 9:51 AM

I changed the prompt to this:

""" Consider a mathematical function EML defined as `eml(x,y)=exp(x)−ln(y)`

Please produce `sin(x)/x` as a composition on EMLs and constant number 1 (one). """

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brrrrrmtoday at 3:24 PM

meta.ai in instant mode gets it first try too (I think?)

``` 2x + y = \operatorname{eml}\Big(1,\; \operatorname{eml}\big(\operatorname{eml}(1,\; \operatorname{eml}(\operatorname{eml}(1,\; \operatorname{eml}(\operatorname{eml}(L_2 + L_x, 1), 1) \cdot \operatorname{eml}(y,1)),1)\big),1\big)\Big) ```

for me Gemini hallucinated EML to mean something else despite the paper link being provided: "elementary mathematical layers"

spuztoday at 8:36 AM

So what is the correct answer?