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noir_lordyesterday at 3:19 PM2 repliesview on HN

> If you aren’t using iCloud for any of this, why use it at all? I believe you can still use an iPhone without an iCloud account, can’t you?

Nope, You have to have an apple account tied to a physical phone number or you can't sign in on the device or use it at all and they opt you in to the 5GB free plan and yes, the 30 sliders is apps but that doesn't alter the fact that I want to be asked before they exfiltrate my data, technology should exist to serve the user and part of that (at least in my opinion) is respecting privacy.

Yes you can sign out and you can untoggle the boxes but that is rather my point, it's opt out not opt in.

I don't want default exfiltration of data from my devices to a faceless American corporation without that been my choice.


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ramgineyesterday at 8:04 PM

I daily my work MacBook without an Apple account or phone number. And no, it’s not in ABM, or any other MDE. App Store is unavailable because of the missing account, but it does not prevent me from using the device like you’re claiming.

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snazzyesterday at 3:34 PM

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