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fmbbyesterday at 10:47 PM0 repliesview on HN

We already have humans, we were lucky and evolved into what we are. It does not matter that nature did not guarantee this, we are here now.

Large language models are not under evolutionary pressure and not evolving like we or other animals did.

Of course there is nothing technical in the way preventing humans from creating a ”nice” computer program. Hello world is a testament to that and it’s everywhere, implemented in all the world’s programming languages.

> If the author believes that evolution was able to produce something robustly "nice", there's good reason to believe the same can be achieved by gradient descent.

I don’t see how one means there is any reason, good or not, to believe it is likely to be achieved by gradient descent. But note that the quote you copied says it is likely some entity will train misaligned LLMs, not that it is impossible one aligned model can be produced. It is trivial to show that nice and safe computer programs can be constructed.

The real question is if the optimization game that is capitalism is likely to yield anything like the human kind we just lucked out to get from nature.