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altmanaltmanlast Tuesday at 8:24 PM2 repliesview on HN

Interesting you mention non-coding AI apps because this seems pretty trivial to do with any harness (have a master file, update it over sessions + snapshots etc).

Most non-coding AI tools are meant for general consumers who normally don't care if they have to do a new search each session + the hacky memory features try to tackle this over the long term. Also you can always supply it with the updated file at each prompt and ask it to return by updating the file. (if you really want to do with something like ChatGPT).

And I think its a bit hyperbole to extrapolate this to "software philosophy is changing". Like most apps still work on documents/data? Not sure what you meant there


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gaolei8888last Tuesday at 11:21 PM

They will have to care eventually.

This one-shot content generated is quality-less, no-focus. I would not, but cannot help to use the word, garbage. That's why some time you see a picture or a piece of video, or even some content, you can smell it is AI. And AI smell stinks.

The real useful AI content(for this case, the financial goal) generation is a long term efforts, and current AI agent is not good at it. That's why the author created this platform(or App) to help people achieve there.

TeMPOraLlast Wednesday at 7:55 AM

> Most non-coding AI tools are meant for general consumers who normally don't care if they have to do a new search each session + the hacky memory features try to tackle this over the long term.

They do care. The vendors don't. Or rather, they're not prioritizing it.

Technically, two of the major players own office suite software, into which they integrate AI, and it's kinda starting to become usable for something. But it is still a bit ridiculous that there's nothing in mainstream tools themselves between single-shot document output and full Computer Use in Claude Desktop. Multi-document edit wouldn't be that hard to make as an extension of "canvas" mode in these tools.

> Like most apps still work on documents/data? Not sure what you meant there

I mentioned mobile. Most apps don't work on data documents, they work in private databases, and collaborate with the OS to keep you from accessing your data directly.

It is absolutely a philosophical change. The core unit of computer use in desktop era was a file. Data belonged in files, which were owned by users. Applications were used to operate on those files. In the mobile era, the core unit of computing is an app, which owns the data, and may or may not graciously let other apps access a partial, non-canonical copy by means of "Share" menu.