alt Hacker NewsI'm disappointed they didn't release a 27B dense model. I've been working with Qwen3.5-27B and Qwen3.5-35B-A3B locally, both in their native weights and the versions the community distilled from Opus 4.6 (Qwopus), and I have found I generally get higher quality outputs from the 27B dense model than the 35B-A3B MOE model. My basic conclusion was that MoE approach may be more memory efficient, but it requires a fairly large set of active parameters to match similarly sized dense models, as I was able to see better or comparable results from Qwen3.5-122B-A10B as I got from Qwen3.5-27B, however at a slower generation speed. I am certain that for frontier providers with massive compute that MoE represents a meaningful efficiency gain with similar quality, but for running models locally I still prefer medium sized dense models.
I'll give this a try, but I would be surprised if it outperforms Qwen3.5-27B.
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It's a given that the dense models with comparable size are better. I also proved that in my use case for those two Qwen 3.5 models.
The benchmarks show 3.6 is a bit better than 3.5. I should retry my task, but I don't have a lot of confidence. But it does sound like they worked on the right thing which is getting closer to the 27B performance.
You are right, but this is just the first open-weights model of this family.
They said that they will release several open-weights models, though there was an implication that they might not release the biggest models.