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ggreeryesterday at 1:58 AM1 replyview on HN

If you never doubted it, then why did you call me crazy to believe it, then want something more convincing than, “a random Twitter feed and a news post from a company which is known to spread lies”? It’s quite annoying to spend time digging up information only to be gaslit about the need to provide it.

Regarding the rest of your comment: Again, nowhere in this thread am I making any claims about FSD’s safety or how ready it is for mass usage on public roads. I am not saying it lives up to the promises or that it has been delivered on schedule. You are making arguments against beliefs I do not hold. That is a waste of time for both of us.

The point I am making is that other brands have zero examples of consumers using them on public roads without intervention for thousands of consecutive miles, so claiming they are equivalent or better in capability to FSD is not accurate.


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vel0cityyesterday at 11:29 AM

> why did you call me crazy to believe it,

I called you crazy for citing a website known for publishing lies.

> only to be gaslit about the need to provide it

I never asked for you to go digging. Your own personal drive to stan for Tesla did that.

> claiming they are equivalent or better in capability to FSD is not accurate.

I'm not saying they're 100% exactly the same. I'm just saying spending 5 miles actually operating the car on a several hundred mile road trip is pretty much the same as not touching the wheel at all to me if I'm still ultimately responsible for the operation of the car. In the end I had to completely pay attention the whole way. Until it's actually (Unsupervised) it's really mostly the same to me. Especially since I can't really trust the not-full not-self driving to not get into an accident or kill someone with me as the one responsible.

In the end they're both level 2 systems.