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aaploktoday at 2:21 AM1 replyview on HN

I agree that calling someone a bad person for using one of the most common test images is excessive. However, regarding this:

> The subject of the photograph merely went along with it.

The subject of the photograph did ask for it to no longer be used. Here's a quote from her:

> I retired from modeling a long time ago. It’s time I retired from tech, too.

> to defiantly do the opposite.

If the policing comes from third party for virtue signalling, this is fair game. Here, I'd just suggest that respecting her wish is just common courtesy and consider someone who defiantly doesn't as a somewhat rude person.

[0] https://interestingengineering.com/culture/bye-lenna-iconic-...


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fc417fc802today at 3:10 AM

Yes, I'm aware of her statement. My view is that she merely went along with what I see as reactionary nonsense as opposed to actually caring about the use of her likeness. We all have a civic duty to actively push back against the spread of polarizing reactionary movements.

Even if I believed her request to be genuine I can't bring myself to view reproducing a commercial image of a professional model that's in widespread circulation as being unethical under any circumstances. Neither would I ever agree to stop distributing a well known book if one day many years later the author woke up suddenly wanting to undo its publication. If you find my viewpoint confusing or seemingly unreasonable, for reference I view projects such as Anna's Archive in a positive light.

While I strongly disagree with what I perceive to be the intent behind the image being banned by many journals, I nonetheless agree with the outcome. It's an objectively poor test image for demonstrating the technical capabilities of the vast majority of modern applications. We don't benchmark modern video codecs by encoding VHS rips of classic Disney movies and we shouldn't do the equivalent for still images.