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2,100 Swiss municipalities showing which provider handles their official email

203 pointsby doeneryesterday at 10:55 PM61 commentsview on HN

Related ongoing thread: Swiss authorities want to reduce dependency on Microsoft - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47827383


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FabCHtoday at 10:06 AM

People in this thread are missing an interesting perspective:

We could, if we really wanted to, actually force this issue via referendum. It takes only 100k signatures to force a vote at the federal level, and less at lower levels.

It wouldn’t be the weirdest thing we voted on…

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jmorenoamortoday at 4:42 AM

It's 6AM here, and I've been wondering for quite some secomds why blue municipalities do not work.

Yeah, have a nice day everyone.

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surmoitoday at 7:36 AM

France has the same done officially to evaluate if public local entities can benefit from our soverein open source office suite https://suiteterritoriale.anct.gouv.fr/conformite/cartograph...

dkgatoday at 4:12 AM

I am curious: can something like this be used to check the provider handling the e-mails of, say, groups of companies? I ask this because I am a research economist, and part of my research is in the intersection of tech and economics/finance. So for example, I would be delighted to check the e-mail providers of S&P 500 companies and then check whether outages or bad news related to their e-mail providers (proxying for their broader application) also translates to lower returns in the client firms.

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sam_lowry_today at 3:23 AM

Also mxmap.nl and mxmap.be and there is Norvegian map at kommune-epost-norge.netlify.app

I remember seing the Swedish map as well but can't find it now.

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zephyreonyesterday at 11:40 PM

Posts like these always give me a moment of pause to reflect just how expansive the global internet is.

BobbyTables2today at 3:39 AM

Warms my heart that it is not all divided between Google and Microsoft…

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totetsutoday at 1:12 AM

I wonder how that one county ended up on infomaniak https://www.infomaniak.com/ Edit: (Looks like there are a few)

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hex-mtoday at 6:05 AM

I'd love a Thunderbird extension that shows where the mailboxes I correspond with are hosted.

throwaway2037today at 8:56 AM

Really: Zero for OVHcloud or Hetzner? I find it hard to believe!

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derelictatoday at 10:42 AM

Ahahah it's always funny to see my old employer on this website. What's more crazy is that they appeared twice, and they are really not that important lol

maryjeieltoday at 2:02 AM

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jeffbeeyesterday at 11:12 PM

TBQH it's crazy to have 2,100 distinct choices. Why isn't there a national-level host that frees municipalities from having to think about it?

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bblbtoday at 4:45 AM

This whole reactionist protectionist sovereignity fuss will blow over in a year or two. Way too costly to force mass migrate gazillion users and services. Even if just to move away from AD and Entra. Forget about it. Local gov all around the world is stuck with these permanently.

One little hint to all the European providers: just provide a better and more cost effective service than the US competitors, and the users will come. Innovate something new and interesting. Don't just copy paste Microsoft, Amazon and Apple.

(disclaimer: I work in European municipality IT infra)

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sixhobbitstoday at 9:24 AM

I'm not a microsoft fan at all but European governments have tried to get away from it a few times and I don't think it's ever been very successful.

People are familiar with Microsoft, and for all of their problems they do know what governments are actually solving for which smaller providers often don't understand.

Just today I had to configure a swedish-based email provider and it felt like going back to the 90s. There were three different web portals, each with a separate login, and one I can't log into at all so I just get an error ,the other lets me configure some email settings, and the third lets me view my email and configure some other settings.

European software often feels like this scene from Succession where rich guy says to his children "I love you, but you're not serious people" compared to US equivalents to me.

Random green square

    iz-net.ch swiss smtp.iz-net.ch
    weloveyou.systems unknown spf.mail.weloveyou.systems
    imc-hosting.com unknown spf.imc-hosting.com
    abxsec.com swiss spf.abxsec.com
    tophost.ch swiss _spf.tophost.ch
    iz-net.ch swiss spf.iz-net.ch

Random red square

    Microsoft hyperscaler hasle-ch.mail.protection.outlook.com
    Microsoft hyperscaler spf.protection.outlook.com

I'd love for them to reduce their microsoft dependency, but not at the cost of whatever weloveyou.systems is